Why listen to a Car Salesman anyway?

You know what they say about salesmen, especially a car salesmen, they’re just crooks and lie to you just to get your money. Yep you’ve probably heard all the horror stories. Thats why you question them about every aspect of the sale. And well I don’t blame you, you should ask questions.

But, why don’t you ask questions of your pastor, prophet, prophetess or bishop when they tell you things from scripture? Let me try and answer that, you trust him he’s the one who’s connected to the Lord and has all the answers. We’re quick to jump up and say it “preach, you gone bishop” “praise him” “amen” we’ll affirm what they are saying without any bit of reservation.

Let me ask you another question what if, what if something inside you says something just don’t sound right? What then, do you throw up a quick affirmation or are you going to go to the scriptures and read it for yourself, pray and ask the Lord are these words I’m hearing from the pulpit what you’ve spoken in your Word? I pray that you do. Yet many of us don’t. And thats why this car salesman is writing this post. Because I’m troubled in my spirit. I feel like Elihu after hearing Jobs 3 friends, burning with anger. (When you have a chance read what he said in ch 32)

When I really began to dive into scripture the first thing that I was told was to read scriputre in its context. Read a paragraph before and after the verse your focusing on. I would add that you should do more than that you may need to read a chapter or more before just to get the full scope of what the Lord is saying.

If you’re not familiar with these two words let me help you out a bit the first is eis·e·ge·sis:
an interpretation, especially of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter’s own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text. the second is ex·e·ge·sis:critical explanation or interpretation of a text or portion of a text, especially of the Bible. Question: “What is the difference between exegesis and eisegesis?”

Answer: Exegesis and eisegesis are two conflicting approaches in Bible study. Exegesis is the exposition or explanation of a text based on a careful, objective analysis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead out of.” That means that the interpreter is led to his conclusions by following the text.

The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.False teachers err on the side of eisegesis.

Brothers and sisters, If you never read what I write again listen to what I’m saying right now. When a person that is teaching you the Word of God 1st open your bibles and read the passage that he is preaching from, secondly if what you are hearing is contradictory to what written you may in fact find that you’re now worshiping in the jim jones sanctuary and you’re drinking the cool aide, now committing spiritual suicide. My brother in Christ Shai Linne pinned this song so perfectly in “False Teachers” http://youtu.be/pl4WevY-GPU

By all means study Gods word for your own edification, so when that moment comes and you hear something that doesn’t line up with scripture you can quickly discern the truth from a lie. And in the end just like you would question that car salesman, ask the bishop when you see what he’s saying just don’t add up.


Proverbs:A Mini-Guide to Life


Originally Posted By Tim Keller On March 16, 2010 @ 8:13 PM

In my regular, daily Bible reading over the past year I read through Proverbs 3, a passage I’ve studied and preached through many times. But during this reading, I realized that in verses 3 through 12 we have all the themes of the rest of the book, and therefore a kind of mini-guide to faithful living. There are five things that comprise a wise, godly life. They function both as means to becoming wise and godly as well as signs that you are growing into such a life:

1. Put your heart’s deepest trust in God and his grace. Every day remind yourself of his unconditioned, covenantal love for you. Do not instead put your hopes in idols or in your own performance.

Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man. Trust in the LORD with all your heart (Prov 3:3-5a)

2. Submit your whole mind to the Scripture. Don’t think you know better than God’s word. Bring it to bear on every area of life. Become a person under authority.

Lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. (Prov 3:5b-6)

3. Be humble and teachable toward others. Be forgiving and understanding when you want to be critical of them; be ready to learn from others when they come to be critical of you.

Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones. (Prov 3:7-8)

4. Be generous with all your possessions, and passionate about justice. Share your time, talent, and treasure with those who have less.

Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the first fruits of all your crops; then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine. (Prov 3:9-10)

5. Accept and learn from difficulties and suffering. Through the gospel, recognize them as not punishment, but a way of refining you.

My son, do not despise the LORD’s discipline and do not resent his rebuke, because the LORD disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in. (Prov 3:11-12)

As I meditated on these five elements–rooted in his grace, obeying and delighting in his Word, humble before other people, sacrificially generous toward our neighbor, and steadfast in trials–I thought of Jesus. The New Testament tells us that the personified ‘divine wisdom’ of the Old Testament is actually Jesus (Mt 11:19.) And I realized that a) he showed the ultimate trust and faithfulness to God and to us by going to the cross, b) he was saturated with and shaped by Scripture, c) he was meek and lowly in heart (Mt. 11:28-30), d) he, though rich, became poor for us, e) and he bore his suffering, for us, without complaint. We can only grow in these five areas if you know you are saved by costly grace. That keeps you from idols, from self-sufficiency and pride, from selfishness with your things, and from crumbling under troubles. Jesus is wisdom personified, and believing his gospel brings these character qualities into your life.

For a number of weeks I have been spending time praying for these five things for my family and my church leaders. There’s no better way to instill these great things in your own heart, than to pray intensely for them in the lives of those you love.


Editor’s Note: This post originally ran at Redeemer City to City [1].

Evangelico Manifesto

An Introduction

Jun 13, 2006 by Vulputate

An Evangelical Manifesto is an open declaration of who Evangelicals are and what they stand for. It has been drafted and published by a representative group of Evangelical leaders who do not claim to speak for all Evangelicals, but who invite all other Evangelicals to stand with them and help clarify what Evangelical means in light of “confusions within and the consternation without” the movement. As the Manifesto states, the signers are not out to attack or exclude anyone, but to rally and to call for reform.

As an open declaration, An Evangelical Manifesto addresses not only Evangelicals and other Christians but other American citizens and people of all other faiths in America, including those who say they have no faith. It therefore stands as an example of how different faith communities may address each other in public life, without any compromise of their own faith but with a clear commitment to the common good of the societies in which we all live together.

For those who are Evangelicals, the deepest purpose of the Manifesto is a serious call to reform—an urgent challenge to reaffirm Evangelical identity, to reform Evangelical behavior, to reposition Evangelicals in public life, and so rededicate ourselves to the high calling of being Evangelical followers of Jesus Christ.

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Jesus, Canon and Theology…

Very interesting dialogue… grab a coffee, juice or donut turn up the volume and enjoy as I did.
Jesus, Canon and Theology   Drs. Darrell Bock, Dan Wallace, and Ben Witherington dialogue on the historical and biblical foundation for the person of Jesus, the formation of the canon, and the development of theology.
D John

You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good…

I have to start this off by saying thank you to Joseph. He is one that really knows how to forgive. ” For if you forgive men their trespassses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” Mat 6:14-15

Why should we forgive and show mercy? ” For judgement is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgement.” Ja 2:13  The life of Joseph is one of the greatest examples of this. At age 17 he being sold to the Ishmaelites and written off as dead by his brothers had come over a period of 22 years seperated from the love of his father Jacob understood his relationship with God through prayer.

There needs to be recognition of God in our lives, and a learning to communicate with Him. Allowing the Holy Spirit to lead us in the way He would have us go. We are considered fools if we are to say there is no God. Joseph understand this in his time of slavery he was able to fully submit to the will of God. Once we begin to understand that which He has for us we then need to exercise our faith in Him.

How do we exercise our faith? We have to read, meditate and begin to live His word, and I would submit that this should be a daily practice. How are we to undestand the things of the Lord if we don’t have a clue as to what He is saying.  

The trials of pain, hurt, and rejection are for our benefit that we might draw closer to God and in turn are able to help others through there time of need. In the story of Joseph had he not been placed in the position that he was many nations could have been lost.

Learn to let go of the selfish pride that is keeping you from forgiving your brother, sister your friends and neighbors. Mark 7:21 http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Mar&chapter=7&verse=21 , 2 Tim 3:1-9 http://net.bible.org/passage.php?passage=2Ti%203:1-9#n3  both teach us that its whats in our hearts that defile us. Start your purifcation process get into Gods word and allow Him to show you how to forgive

D John

What are the Essentials for Christianity? A Test of Unity and Diversity

I thought this was a fun test that was posted back in Nov from the team over at reclaming the mind website you can view some of the responses there just click this link :

Before you do, take the test for yourself and see how you faired against the other respondents.

C Michael Patton ~

I want to give you all a test. Let’s try to get as many people to take this as we can. It will be fun, challenging, and helpful—I promise.
We have quit a few readers to this blog and many of you are from different traditions. I want to test our audience’s unity and diversity. What are the essentials and non-essentials for Christianity in your opinion?
Here are the rules:
I am going to give a list of doctrinal issues. I want you all to rank them 1-6. Think hard about them. In your answer, give your tradition to which you identify most (e.g. Evangelical, Baptist, Brethern, Catholic, Orthodox, etc.). This way we can test the unity and diversity of those who call themselves Christian.
Here is a list of the ranks:
Essential for Salvation (1). Those doctrinal issues which rank as a 1 will only be those that you believe are absolutely essential for the Christian to believe in order to be Christian. In other words, if one were to deny this doctrine or issue, they could not be saved.
Essential for Orthodoxy (2). Those doctrinal issues which you rank as 2 will consist of those that you believe are part of the historic Christian faith. Ranking them as a 2 means that you believe that a denial of this doctrine, while not disqualifying someone from salvation, does disqualify them from orthodoxy. Obviously, if you rank something an 1 it will also be a 2, so there is no need to rank it with both a 1 and 2.
Important, but not essential (3). These doctrinal issues are those which you believe are very important for the Christian faith, yet do not qualify as a 1 or 2.
Not important (4). These doctrinal issues are those about which you believe that a person may have a strong opinion but you do not believe have any bearing on a person’s salvation or orthodoxy and are not important in any way for the Christian faith.
Pure speculation (5). These doctrinal issues are those that you believe are pure speculation. In other words, not only do they not qualify for 1-4, but you do not believe that anyone can or should have any legitimate conviction at all.
Wrong (6). These are doctrinal issues that you don’t believe.
Here are the doctrinal issues:
1. Belief in the full deity of Christ
2. Belief in sola fide (belief that salvation is by faith alone, without the addition of any works)
3. Belief in the existence of God
4. Belief in the pre-tribulational rapture of the Church
5. Belief that the witch of Endor saw the Spirit of Samuel, not a demonic representation (1 Sam. 28:15)
6. Belief in inerrancy (that the Bible does not have any errors in doctrine, history, or science
7. Belief that believers, upon death, go to directly into the presence of Christ, not into a state of spiritual unconsciousness until the resurrection (i.e. you deny soul-sleep)
8. Belief that Christ is fully God and fully Man
9. Belief that the book of 2 Peter should be part of the New Testament canon
10. Belief that the Gospel of John should be part of the New Testament canon
11. Belief that the doctrine of purgatory is false
12. Belief in the doctrine of the Trinity (i.e. there is one God who eternally exist in three distinct persons, all of which are fully God, all of which are equal)
13. Belief in the inspiration of Scripture
14. Beliefs about the age of the earth
15. Belief that Adam and Eve were real people, not simply symbolic of mankind
16. Belief in the eternal security of the believer/perseverance of the saints (i.e. that a true believe can never lose their salvation)
17. Belief that Jesus will come again
18. Belief that Jesus rose bodily from the grave
19. Belief in imputed sin (i.e. that we are held guilty by God for the sin of Adam)
20. Belief in personal sin (i.e. that all people have sinned)
21. Belief in the penal substitutionary view of the atonement (i.e. that Christ death on the cross was a substitute penalty required by God for payment for your sins)
22. Belief in monotheism (i.e. there is only one God)
23. Belief in sola Scriptura (i.e. that the Scripture is our ultimate and and only infallible authority and that no council or pope is infallible)
24. Belief that homosexuality is a sin
25. Belief that abortion is a sin
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